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the sun is coming up over washington. joining us now, contributing editor and best selling author, sebastian junger. a world made of blood. we have been following this over the years. tell us about it. >> i was there during the civil war and this was my first african civil war and it was uniquely terrifying. of course i'm a journalist and that's mostly what i do, but in this case after i finished my assignment, a few years later i thought i would try to write fiction for a journalist. it seems like a no go zone. i thought i would give it a try. this is taking my experience that is already seeing how i react and how other people would react. watching it play out in a fictional way. >> the overhappen happelap is protagonist of the book? >> it's a short story. maybe it's a book in the internet sense, but i just downloaded it. i was reading it. >> how is it? >> it's -- daniel is a jung reporter. we have known these people and the story seems to be going the way of most realistic stories. the veteran photographer in a war zone
the sun is coming up over washington. joining us now, contributing editor and best selling author, sebastian junger. a world made of blood. we have been following this over the years. tell us about it. >> i was there during the civil war and this was my first african civil war and it was uniquely terrifying. of course i'm a journalist and that's mostly what i do, but in this case after i finished my assignment, a few years later i thought i would try to write fiction for a journalist. it...
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joining me in from washington, kelly o'donnell. let's talk about why the conversation last night fell apart with the president and the speaker. this issue of extending the tax cuts for the wealthy. speaker boehner said that was not a part of his proposal. >> one of the things we have been observing is the president and speaker have been trying to lockdown as much as possible the secrecy or privacy may be a better word of their conversations to get to an eventual deal if they can get there. by that i mean there fewer staffers involve and member who is would typically have standing to be included in these negotiations. it's such a tight focus of the president and the speaker. characterizing the nature of the phone calls is keeping the public aspect moving forward. it allows the president to have public events. we have seen him meet with business leaders and mayors and be able to make his argument to the american people. republicans had a harder time of that because they are not in the same position to hold the public events. speaker
joining me in from washington, kelly o'donnell. let's talk about why the conversation last night fell apart with the president and the speaker. this issue of extending the tax cuts for the wealthy. speaker boehner said that was not a part of his proposal. >> one of the things we have been observing is the president and speaker have been trying to lockdown as much as possible the secrecy or privacy may be a better word of their conversations to get to an eventual deal if they can get...
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i look at washington. i look at california. i look at the 40% of the people who call themselves independents. i look at the constant attacks by people against this nasty partisanship. you know, so i think congress got down to 13% approval, which only proves there's 13% who are not paying attention." if everybody was just happy with what's happening, i would say, "we have really lost, you know, control of our system." but the thing that does concern me, bill, is to have this kind of a system of democracy, you need to have a citizenship, you know, that is capable of operating in this kind of a democracy. so, we need to do a better job of teaching civics. we need to do a better job of teaching critical thinking. you know, we need to do -- we need to have more citizens who engage, show up in the primaries, show up in the elections. we can start by fixing the political system. >> i would say that one way to start is to read, "the parties versus the people: how to turn republicans and democrats into americans." mickey edwards, thank
i look at washington. i look at california. i look at the 40% of the people who call themselves independents. i look at the constant attacks by people against this nasty partisanship. you know, so i think congress got down to 13% approval, which only proves there's 13% who are not paying attention." if everybody was just happy with what's happening, i would say, "we have really lost, you know, control of our system." but the thing that does concern me, bill, is to have this kind...
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a flood, but the problem is right, that we got now -- we now potentially have an administration in washington that cares about keeping manufacturing jobs in the united states. but prior to that under the bush administration, and the hands off posture the u.s. has taken, there is no way we're going to be able to keep those good-paying middle class jobs in america. you need to have an active government to enable us to do that. >> yes, we lost all of those years. you had the unfortunate job of being the governor of michigan while george w. bush was president. but the bush plan was part and parcel to what we're seeing now. and actually before bush it happened to the governor before you who was there for -- i don't know how long? 12 years? >> jennifer: yeah. >> but this really started with ronald reagan, when he fired the air traffic controllers. and maybe we can talk about this in the next segment, because i would like to offer some constructive criticism of what we need to do now. >> jennifer: yes, i totally want to do that. but i just want to ask you a question, though, because i know you said
a flood, but the problem is right, that we got now -- we now potentially have an administration in washington that cares about keeping manufacturing jobs in the united states. but prior to that under the bush administration, and the hands off posture the u.s. has taken, there is no way we're going to be able to keep those good-paying middle class jobs in america. you need to have an active government to enable us to do that. >> yes, we lost all of those years. you had the unfortunate job...
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what we saw yesterday was fancy accounting by washington officials. we don't have serious spending cuts. even for argument's sake, if we gave the president all of the tax increases that he wanted, putting that all out there, we're still looking at a trillion dollar deficit each year. we have to have serious spending cuts and that has to go hand in hand if he wants to look at there are other ways to put revenues on the table, capping deductions, closing loopholes. those are ways we can put revenue on the table but we have to have, as they said all along, a balanced approach. i'm with joy, i hope there's more progress going on behind the scenes than publicly, because we need to get this resolved. >> ari, the white house also reportedly threw in these spending cuts from $400 billion to $600 billion. also just as well as this promise to achieve corporate tax reform. i want to give everybody the speaker's response yesterday and then press secretary jake carney's responsibe. >> where are the president's spending cuts? the longer the white house slow walks t
what we saw yesterday was fancy accounting by washington officials. we don't have serious spending cuts. even for argument's sake, if we gave the president all of the tax increases that he wanted, putting that all out there, we're still looking at a trillion dollar deficit each year. we have to have serious spending cuts and that has to go hand in hand if he wants to look at there are other ways to put revenues on the table, capping deductions, closing loopholes. those are ways we can put...
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good morning from washington. it's wednesday, december 12th, 12-12-12. my kids have never been so excited about a date. let's get right to my first read of the morning. one step forward, two steps back. that's probably the best way to describe the fiscal talks between president obama and house speaker john boehner. with christmas less than two weeks away, the white house is faced with the same key question. can boehner deliver the votes for whatever deal they agree on? >> i remain optimistic and i'm pretty confident that republicans would not hold middle class taxes hostage to try to protect tax cuts for high income individuals. >> but with time running out, neither side seems to have budged very far from the original proposal. the only good news about what happened in the past 24 hours, they are not publicly trashing each other's proposals. on monday the white house sent boehner a counteroffer which at beast can be incremental movement. almost on the details of the offer are under wraps. the $1.6 trillion in tax revenue the president was demanding can c
good morning from washington. it's wednesday, december 12th, 12-12-12. my kids have never been so excited about a date. let's get right to my first read of the morning. one step forward, two steps back. that's probably the best way to describe the fiscal talks between president obama and house speaker john boehner. with christmas less than two weeks away, the white house is faced with the same key question. can boehner deliver the votes for whatever deal they agree on? >> i remain...
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with me is ron reagan and dana milbank of the "washington post." before we talk about the gop split, we should republicans in the white house have exchanged horses. that's the thought i have. i may be conservative about this. >> yeah, i think you're right, they'd like to, but i'm not sure they can get it done before christmas, maybe before the end of the year. i think, again, as we get down to the last few hours, i think then you will see a real push to get something done. as dana implied, everybody knows in a sense what this agreement in broad strokes is going to look like. we're going to have tax increases on the upper 2% and we're not going to have a tax increase on the middle class. and there's going to be some spending cuts. but that's, you know, that's about all we know. >> let's take a look at this fight that seems to be emerging on the right. it's not surprising. to some extent it may be represented on the left, but i don't think so. republicans fall into two camps. on fiscal reform and the question of the cliff. the realists we'll call the
with me is ron reagan and dana milbank of the "washington post." before we talk about the gop split, we should republicans in the white house have exchanged horses. that's the thought i have. i may be conservative about this. >> yeah, i think you're right, they'd like to, but i'm not sure they can get it done before christmas, maybe before the end of the year. i think, again, as we get down to the last few hours, i think then you will see a real push to get something done. as...
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., japan, south korea and the united nations all denounce the launch with washington, calling it a highly provocative act that threatens regional security. this hour the u.n. security council is meeting behind closed doors on today's rocket launch. that isn't likely to matter to north korea's new, young leader. kim jong un, who appears to be following in his father's foot accepts even dodged calls on this launch. chris lawrence is following this at the pentagon. chris, if you can tell us a little bit about the launch. it might seem surprising, but was it really surprising given the history we have with these leaders? >> reporter: it was only a surprise, ashley, that it happened last night. they knew this was going to take place, but when north korea asked to extend the launch window to the end of the year, most thought it would come next week at the earliest. i just spoke with a u.s. official who confirms that the object that north korea launched is still in orbit right now, and they're doing their final calculations to determine whether or not it was, indeed, a satellite as north korea c
., japan, south korea and the united nations all denounce the launch with washington, calling it a highly provocative act that threatens regional security. this hour the u.n. security council is meeting behind closed doors on today's rocket launch. that isn't likely to matter to north korea's new, young leader. kim jong un, who appears to be following in his father's foot accepts even dodged calls on this launch. chris lawrence is following this at the pentagon. chris, if you can tell us a...
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that court case began this weekend in washington. they argue the filibuster is illegal because it infringes on what they see as a constitutional guarantee of majority rule in congress. the court system has never before entered into the senate's internal role making, and quite frankly, it is unlikely to do so now. but they're trying. the other track is in the senate. majority leader harry reid keeps threatening to change the rules. he says it will happen at the very beginning of the next congress. the very first item on the agenda. the main idea under consideration, the main way to change the rules comes from oregon democrat jeff merkley. if you want to filibuster, you can't say 60 vote rule, too bad. can't vote on that. you actually have to go down and hold the floor and talk and talk and talk and talk all night and for days and for weeks. you need to work for it. there is merit to this idea. it would make filibusters harder on the minority. it would make them more transparent to the public. it would make them less likely on popular
that court case began this weekend in washington. they argue the filibuster is illegal because it infringes on what they see as a constitutional guarantee of majority rule in congress. the court system has never before entered into the senate's internal role making, and quite frankly, it is unlikely to do so now. but they're trying. the other track is in the senate. majority leader harry reid keeps threatening to change the rules. he says it will happen at the very beginning of the next...
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want to get you back now to piers morgan, who is in washington, d.c. tonight with a very special interview. >> welcome to the senate committee on foreign relations. this is where some of the most sense sensitive global issues are discussed. tonight i'm sitting down with three legendary citizens, john mccain senior senator from arizona, presidential candidate and ranking member on the armed services committee, joe lieberman, senior senator from connecticut and was on the ticket with al gore, and lindsey graham, the senior senator from south carolina, a member of the armed services appropriations and budget committees. welcome the you three. the three amigos. as dubbed by general petraeus. >> you forgot to mention he ran for president also and lost and he'll run and lose some day. >> this is -- john, much too often as we travel has described us as the losers caucus. once we were in pakistan and the ambassador -- this was 2002, the ambassador was good enough to give a dinner in our honor. mccain and i led the delegation of eight other senators. he got up
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we had friends -- it's past tense now -- in washington, d.c. they've been together for over a decade. one partner went out of town on a business trip. came back, opened his apartment door. and his partner was on the floor, having passed out -- or died of a heart attack in his absence. the deceased partner's relative was a lawyer brother in boston for whom had been estranged. he came and took everything. the laws were against the one that -- they shared their lives and their fortune and yet he lost t all. so this grieving partner lost not only the love of his life, but everything that they had built together. there's that kind of injustice. and this barrier that we insist on, legalistic barrier that we insist on putting up is to me unfathomable. in the case of our being incourse rated in the second world war, we looked different. we were visibly identifiable. but in the case of homophobia, we are literally members of a family. we are sons and daughters of heterosexual parents. we are brothers and sisters. we are literally kin, blood kin, and yet
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. >> happy days and good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. and we are 20 days away from that so-called fiscal cliff. in our new nbc news/wall street journal poll just out for us today, most americans say they want compromise. joining me here for our daily fix, chris, msnbc contributor and managing editor of postpolitics.com. the fiscal cliff, the people that we polled, americans get it. they want, two-thirds of them, 65% say they want a deal to be done. they want compromises even if it means targeted entitlement cuts and tax increases. >> yeah, and i don't think we should be terribly surprised by that, andrea. the truth of the matter is over the last decade or so what we've seen is congress, really, because of redistricting and other things like that, members of congress don't tend to have to represent the middle of the country. they wind up representing their two-party bases, the people that deeply disagree. democratic base does not want entitlement cuts, republican base does not want to raise taxes. but people in general like the idea congr
. >> happy days and good day, i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. and we are 20 days away from that so-called fiscal cliff. in our new nbc news/wall street journal poll just out for us today, most americans say they want compromise. joining me here for our daily fix, chris, msnbc contributor and managing editor of postpolitics.com. the fiscal cliff, the people that we polled, americans get it. they want, two-thirds of them, 65% say they want a deal to be done. they want compromises...
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of workers and unions have declined unions themselves have had less political clout to do things in washington to get things done on behalf of average working people. so, for example as globalization and technological change has affected the structure of the work force there's been no loud, organized force in washington that has said essentially no! we've got to have job retraining. we've got to have better education. we've got to have profit sharing. we have to have productivity sharing. we've got to have arrangements that while not counteracting globalization, nevertheless counteract the effects of globalization and make sure the middle class is safe. without that union voice, the new class has become less and less secure. >> eliot: of course, as we all have learned over the past number of years, one of the critical elements of politics is the phrasing you use to describe an issue or problem saying these are right-to-work laws is a misnomer. first point you made, this has nothing to do with the right to work. who can be off owessed to the right to work. this is about creating a freeloader pr
of workers and unions have declined unions themselves have had less political clout to do things in washington to get things done on behalf of average working people. so, for example as globalization and technological change has affected the structure of the work force there's been no loud, organized force in washington that has said essentially no! we've got to have job retraining. we've got to have better education. we've got to have profit sharing. we have to have productivity sharing. we've...
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i'm chris matthews down in washington. let me start with this tonight. did you get the impression during the campaign the press was trying to be even hand snd do you think the people were pushing what we call balance at the expense of the obvious facts? that the day-to-day stories never got across the obvious big fact. that the democrats in this election were like democrats going back to jack kennedy. but the republicans were far to the right of anything we've seen from that party ever. self-deportation, forget the 47%, treat women like they belong in binders, ignore the rights of gay people, crack down on abortion rights even in cases of rape. all those wild statements, all the lingo in the gop platform approved in tampa and not a word. that one of the political parties has gone so far star board that not even ronald reagan could get aboard. and not jeb bush. tonight we're going to nail it. we go to the truth. and why was the truth not dare be reported in the mainstream media. joining me now is joan walsh of salon and david corn of mother jones. thank y
i'm chris matthews down in washington. let me start with this tonight. did you get the impression during the campaign the press was trying to be even hand snd do you think the people were pushing what we call balance at the expense of the obvious facts? that the day-to-day stories never got across the obvious big fact. that the democrats in this election were like democrats going back to jack kennedy. but the republicans were far to the right of anything we've seen from that party ever....
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welcome to the end show from washington d.c. . the republican party has struck a blow at the heart of the american worker. this price is not over. this is the end show. let's get to work. >> unions and! unions. >> the american middle class put president obama back in office. billionaires' are playing get back on the working class. andy carroll is here to unmask the dark money behind the michigan attacked. michigan senator debbie stabenow and verge pinero with the game plan to fight back. >>> john maynor has erick kanter and paul ryan keeping the tea party on line. jan shakur boesky tells us what republicans really have up their sleeves. karl rove is back. the man who wasted millions of dollars on the electrical is now predicting a fiscal close outcome. >>> dick cheney has once again reared his head to attack president obama's foreign-policy. lawrence wilkerson will show us how what the former vice president still isn't shooting straight. >>> good to have you with us. thanks for watching. michigan became the 24 states in the union
welcome to the end show from washington d.c. . the republican party has struck a blow at the heart of the american worker. this price is not over. this is the end show. let's get to work. >> unions and! unions. >> the american middle class put president obama back in office. billionaires' are playing get back on the working class. andy carroll is here to unmask the dark money behind the michigan attacked. michigan senator debbie stabenow and verge pinero with the game plan to fight...
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do you know a single republican in washington who's buying it? >> i don't know a republican or a democrat who's buying that. many say look the reality is she just hasn't made up her mind yet. she wants to take some time to relax after serving as secretary of state. but i spoke with one republican operative today who said that the clinton run would be something to be feared. the republicans really believe that she would certainly be one of the strongest candidates they could face in 2016. >> no kidding. kristen welker, thank you. >> thanks. >>> and we'll be right back. [ male announcer ] playing in the nfl is tough. ♪ doing it with a cold, just not going to happen. vicks dayquil -- powerful non-drowsy 6-symptom cold & flu relief. ♪ no matter what city you're playing tomorrow. [ coughs ] [ male announcer ] you can't let a cold keep you up tonight. ♪ vicks nyquil -- powerful nighttime 6-symptom cold & flu relief. ♪ ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] everyone deserves the gift of all day pain relief. this season, discover aleve. all day pain relief w
do you know a single republican in washington who's buying it? >> i don't know a republican or a democrat who's buying that. many say look the reality is she just hasn't made up her mind yet. she wants to take some time to relax after serving as secretary of state. but i spoke with one republican operative today who said that the clinton run would be something to be feared. the republicans really believe that she would certainly be one of the strongest candidates they could face in 2016....
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. >> joining us now, washington post columnist and msnbc political policy analyst, ezra klein. ezra, we keep asking the same questions and each day sort of have the same answer, but i ask you, my friend, is anything happening here or nothing happening here, what do you make of the $1.4 trillion number and the news today republicans aren't giving ground on the bush tax cuts? >> i don't make much of it. what was interesting to me, not much of the deals have leaked. that means the negotiations are going fairly well. a couple weeks ago, everything leaked immediately as soon as anybody said it. it means they are trying to talk. one thing i think we sometimes forget, the two sides disagree in a big way. boehner doesn't want to or think he can sell his members on a big tax increase, and president obama, particularly if he's not going to get the tax increase, is not going to go for big entitlement cuts. the underlying problem, the one nobody is knowing how to solve, is what breaks the actual disagreement here. and as of yet, nothing either side have put on the table that is enough to d
. >> joining us now, washington post columnist and msnbc political policy analyst, ezra klein. ezra, we keep asking the same questions and each day sort of have the same answer, but i ask you, my friend, is anything happening here or nothing happening here, what do you make of the $1.4 trillion number and the news today republicans aren't giving ground on the bush tax cuts? >> i don't make much of it. what was interesting to me, not much of the deals have leaked. that means the...
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happening right now, we'll get you live to washington in capitol hill. house speaker john boehner expected to speak right there from that podium at any moment. he had a call with the president last night after republicans sent a new proposal over to the white house to avoid the fiscal cliff. the house speaker. let's listen. >> i feel fine, i just sound a little foggy, that's all. as of today, the president's plan to avert the fiscal cliff still does not meet the two standards that i laid out the day after the election. his plan does not fulfill his promise to bring a balanced approach to solving this problem. it's mainly tax hikes. and his plan does not begin to solve our debt crisis. it actually increases spending. our plan meets the standards, it cuts spending and paves the way for real job growth in our country. in the five weeks since we signalled our willingness to forge an agreement with the president, he's never put forth a plan that meets these standards. and, frankly, that's why we don't have an agreement today. the longer the white house slow w
happening right now, we'll get you live to washington in capitol hill. house speaker john boehner expected to speak right there from that podium at any moment. he had a call with the president last night after republicans sent a new proposal over to the white house to avoid the fiscal cliff. the house speaker. let's listen. >> i feel fine, i just sound a little foggy, that's all. as of today, the president's plan to avert the fiscal cliff still does not meet the two standards that i laid...
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with me is ron reagan and dana milbank of the "washington post." before we talk about the gop split, we should republicans in the white house have exchanged new proposal tsds today. and president obama and boehner have spoken at this time. quote, we sent the white house a counteroffer that would achieve reform to solve our looming debt crisis and create more jobs. that's all we know. dana milbank, they say it's good. they said it will solve our problems. they won't say what it is. explain. >> well, look, we're still in the fairly early stage of posturing here, and nobody can strike a deal until they get closer to it, until their feet are to the fire. >> when do you say the fire begins? >> nobody can make any prediction for sure -- >> try. >> they could hammer this out in three hours if they really wanted to. >> that's right. >> but if they don't wait until the very end of december or even go over the cliff -- >> i think it's 21. i'm going to bet on -- what's your hunch about this, ron reagan? you're here -- i think they're going to try to get it do
with me is ron reagan and dana milbank of the "washington post." before we talk about the gop split, we should republicans in the white house have exchanged new proposal tsds today. and president obama and boehner have spoken at this time. quote, we sent the white house a counteroffer that would achieve reform to solve our looming debt crisis and create more jobs. that's all we know. dana milbank, they say it's good. they said it will solve our problems. they won't say what it is....
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these states have until this friday to inform washington of their plans. all health exchanges must be set up by january 1, 2014. meanwhile, the obama administration is pressuring states to expand medicaid coverage as outlined by obama care. the health care law calls for medicaid to be expanded to anyone who earns up to 133% of the poverty line. under the law, the federal government would cost -- would cover the cost of new enrollment until 2016. then their share would be dropped to 90% by the year 2022. nine states have said no to expansion, despite the huge federal funding. and some states want partial expansion. but today, the administration said no way. states must expand medicaid all the way if they want to receive full obama care funding. let's turn to the former director of the office of consumer information and insurance oversight, with the health and human services department. and also msnbc contributor e.j. dion, "washington post" columnist and author of "our divided political heart." thanks for joining us tonight. jay, these health insurance ex-c
these states have until this friday to inform washington of their plans. all health exchanges must be set up by january 1, 2014. meanwhile, the obama administration is pressuring states to expand medicaid coverage as outlined by obama care. the health care law calls for medicaid to be expanded to anyone who earns up to 133% of the poverty line. under the law, the federal government would cost -- would cover the cost of new enrollment until 2016. then their share would be dropped to 90% by the...
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so why it is held up, i don't know. >> dick butkus joins me on the phone from washington. mr. butkus, thank you for calling in. i know that more than a year ago the players in the league, they signed that new labor agreement that included testing for hgh. you say most players want it. so what's the deal? what's the holdup? >> well, i don't know. they want to check the validity of the test because, you know, if it is a false-positive, you know, you could destroy some of your reputation. but as far as i know, the scientific people brought up that the tests are reliable and i think the whole thing stems, for me, really revolves around my i play clean campaign, the effect on kids. i'm trying to tell -- get the point across to kids that it is the wrong thing to do and, you know, they look up to nfl players. so that's my part is trying to get the kids educated about performance enhancing drugs because there is, you know, there are surveys that we have been privy to, it is over 400,000 kids experimenting with performance enhancing drugs. >> over 400,000. >> i think that's important.
so why it is held up, i don't know. >> dick butkus joins me on the phone from washington. mr. butkus, thank you for calling in. i know that more than a year ago the players in the league, they signed that new labor agreement that included testing for hgh. you say most players want it. so what's the deal? what's the holdup? >> well, i don't know. they want to check the validity of the test because, you know, if it is a false-positive, you know, you could destroy some of your...
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. >> a little sad we get this excited to find out people are actually talking to each other in washington. but it's a reality check, sign of the times. it's always better when the two top men who got to make the decision ultimately are getting in a room without scameras and moving proposals back and forth. it's a sign of progress. is it progress in the next 48 to 72 hours? that's probably optimistic. but progress is being made because conversation is occurring. >> i hate to say this, i was really thrilled we weren't getting a whole lot the last two days which signaled to me at least maybe these guys have decided it's not good to work this out in the court of public opinion, yet now we're starting to hear a little more. good news, bad news? >> i think it's encouraging. among republicans there's an emerging view that was championed by representative cole of oklahoma, wait a second, what we can do is pass one law that extends all the middle income tax cuts and another that extends the whole package and then let the president veto one, let the other go through and we shield a large majority o
. >> a little sad we get this excited to find out people are actually talking to each other in washington. but it's a reality check, sign of the times. it's always better when the two top men who got to make the decision ultimately are getting in a room without scameras and moving proposals back and forth. it's a sign of progress. is it progress in the next 48 to 72 hours? that's probably optimistic. but progress is being made because conversation is occurring. >> i hate to say...
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you have the fiscal cliff, and you have all kinds of gridlock in washington. what do you make of what you see? >> it is very strange. i mean, it could be that somebody should sit down and rewrite the way america runs things, because, you know, while america did this, china moves forward rapidly. other countries are more decisive move forward rapidly. so i think on the fiscal cliff it will get sorted. it would be nice if there could be a bit more decisive leadership. if you run a company, you don't have this -- this horrible problem where you can't make decisions. you can get on and say if i want to get into space, i'll go into space. let's get on and invest in it. if i want to go down to the bottom of the oceans, let's build a submarine that goes to the bottom of oceans. it's a lot easier than running a country. >> do you blame any particular side? is it all the same to you? >> look, i think i'm slightly biased one way more than the other, but i'm not going to push out 50% of the people watching your program right now. all right. i think that as far as things
you have the fiscal cliff, and you have all kinds of gridlock in washington. what do you make of what you see? >> it is very strange. i mean, it could be that somebody should sit down and rewrite the way america runs things, because, you know, while america did this, china moves forward rapidly. other countries are more decisive move forward rapidly. so i think on the fiscal cliff it will get sorted. it would be nice if there could be a bit more decisive leadership. if you run a company,...
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